October 25, 2005

Commenting on Academic Blogs

Filed under: Cyberculture, Blogs

Yesterday I blogged in a hurry because I had a busy day to attend to, so I was very lazy with my hyperlinks, and given the questions about what I was saying by Lalitha and David in my comments, I thought I should elaborate!

So, basically Mark Bernstein, whose blog is here, came to Australia and presented a paper at the Blogtalk DownUnder conference in May. The slides to his presentation (and lots of other fabulous presentations) are here, but if you search his blog you don’t have to go far to see his views> Essentially he says:

I’ve long argued that weblog comments are not worth the risk — that they inevitably devolve into damaging, acrimonious, and expensive flame wars. (Mark Bernstein)

and from here:

Comments don’t belong in weblogs.

The measured pace of weblog response, and the distance between rival weblogs, makes measured discourse possible. Comments let idiots deface your weblog, and that’s intolerable. Because you can’t tolerate it, you have to do something. And that means the idiots have to do something, too. (Mark Bernstein)

Now please don’t misunderstand me here, I respect Mark’s opinion and believe that in some cases this can be absolutely true. There are some occasions where I have deleted a rude comment here for example because I don’t want to engage in debate with somebody who is clearly being hostile. Also, I am not somebody famous like Mark, so the level of traffic and potential comments is very minimal in comparison.

Nevertheless, in general I love comments (the few comments that I get, that is), because most of the time they are with people who want to engage with me or my ideas. I have just finished writing a paper where I discuss blogging as part of the new wave of cyberculture and here’s an excerpt:

Blogging

Weblogs, or blogs, have become a new web phenomenon over the past few years. Kelly (2005) writes that the incredible rise of participant media such as blogs has shocked media experts, and envisions that in the near future, ‘everyone alive will (on average) write a song, author a book, make a video, craft a weblog, and code a program’ (Kelly, 2005, online). The impact of blogging in particular has been profound across the world, with its power to showcase the everyday experiences of people from all circumstances and contexts. One of the most surprising consequence of writing my own blog, i-Anya (Thomas, 2004-current) has been the new International network of colleagues I have made, and the stimulating level of intellectual debate, scholarship, discussion and friendships that have developed. Many academics are now blogging, and are experiencing the same exciting stimulation. Farrell, a writer for the US Chronicle of Education, argues that:

…the majority [of academics who blog], see blogging as an extension of their academic personas. Their blogs allow them not only to express personal views but also to debate ideas, swap views about their disciplines, and connect to a wider public. For these academics, blogging isn’t a hobby; it’s an integral part of their scholarly identity. They may very well be the wave of the future… academic blogs also provide a carnival of ideas, a lively and exciting interchange of argument and debate that makes many scholarly conversations seem drab and desiccated in comparison. Over the next 10 years, blogs and bloglike forms of exchange are likely to transform how we think of ourselves as scholars. While blogging won’t replace academic publishing, it builds a space for serious conversation around and between the more considered articles and monographs that we write.

(Farrell, 2005, “The Blogosphere as a Carnival of Ideas”)

The willingness of others to share their intellectual ideas, to engage in healthy debate, and to link academic works in progress has given me access to a type of scholarship I don’t experience regularly in the frantic daily grind of academic life. Through my blog and engagement in my blogging affinity spaces, I have been afforded the opportunity to build, refine and sharpen my intellectual ideas. By simply having a web presence I have found other like-minded colleagues who enter into dialogue with me about my work on a regular basis. This new type of networking has been and continues to be, for me, an invaluable force in shaping my thinking and my career choices. For me, Web 2.0 is about far more than creating content together with others, it’s also about creating new spaces for all forms of social, emotional and intellectual engagement with others. If academic blogging is ‘the wave of the future’, as Farrell suggests, then research should be conducted to explore the conditions under which this works most effectively.

(from: Thomas, A. (forthcoming). Community, Culture and Citizenship in Cyberspace. In: Lankshear, C., Knobel, M., Leu, D. and Cairo, J. (Eds.), The Handbook of New Literacies Research. Erlbaum.)

and commenting plays a role in all that. I also get emails from people who don’t like to comment, and thatis part of the engagement I am speaking of too. So basically I think Mark Bernstein has an important point about academic reputation in the event of a full scale flame war erupting (which I know I wouldn’t cope with at all!) but I think since I can regulate the comments then the risk of that happening is minimal, particularly given my low status in the food chain *grin*.

I would be interested in what others have to say about this.

Edited later to add in: this link to DrJoolz’s post about comments.

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  1. Mark was clearly talking about a particular (and in my experience unusual) blogger - commenter relationship. I would not expect most academic blogs to be controversial enough to stir up flame wars. I only wish I got more comments so I had the impression what I was saying was of some interest/use to people. I’d even welcome a flame war!

    Comment by David Brake — October 25, 2005 @ 5:59 pm

  2. I’ve seen flame wars erupt over best practices for identifying hawks in the field, on whether literary-critical theory is obscure and exclusionary, and on whether an XML format should use one kind of date formatting or another. I’ve seen flame wars on highly technical mailing lists, on lists populated by English professors and their specially-selected grad students, and on wikipedia pages describing historical events long ago.

    And all these flame wars began, I believe, with honest disagreements. Don’t forget personal enmities and rivalries….

    Comment by Mark Bernstein — October 26, 2005 @ 12:58 am

  3. Thanks David and Mark. I have seen some really bad flame wars on talkers, mailing lists, forums and some blogs actually, but its easy enough to hit the delete or quit or unsubscribe buttons to avoid the hostility. Not so easy if it hapens on your own ‘turf’ though. Fortunately in the field of literacy and English education the only other active bloggers I know have become my friends and part of my affinity space here. I hope if I have enemies or rivals they stay away! I usually keep a low profile too and only comment when I have something nice to say. Having said that, there was one incident that really upset me over at Jill’s blog, and I wouldn’t like to see that repeated. So I guess overall I have a cautious optimism that comments are a healthy and helpful way of engaging and dialogue-ing with others. But if a flame war ever erupts here in the future I will look back and say: Mark told me so! *smile*

    Comment by Anya — October 26, 2005 @ 9:53 am

  4. What WAS the incident at my blog? See, this may seem ridiculous, but I can’t remember it…. And yet I suspect Mark may be talking about something at my blog too, but I can’t think of any flame wars! There was a troll once, but he turned out to be this really nice 65 year old new to the internet and the nature of comments and became one of my most friendly and consistent commenters. Haven’t seen him round for a while, though.

    Comment by Jill — October 26, 2005 @ 3:56 pm

  5. Well it started because I was upset over the “fictional blogs” blog that used some of my paper without proper reference. Then people started commenting on how rude I was to mention that I was upset over it, and those comments upset me even more. I stopped visiting your blog for two weeks because I didn’t want to know what else had been said!!!

    Comment by Anya — October 26, 2005 @ 4:40 pm

  6. Oh, dear, I hadn’t realised it read that way to you! From my point of view it was a useful discussion, where I certainly disagreed with Greg’s comment, but I thought he was in the minority - and the discussion sort of stopped at that point anyway. It’s a shame when things like that happen.

    (I totally agreed with YOU in that discussion, not that it really matters at this point I guess, water under the bridge.)

    Comment by Jill — October 27, 2005 @ 5:05 pm

  7. Hmmm all very interesting this Anya. Understandings and misunderstandings everywhere. I still, like you, think having comments in the main allow a really positive exchange of views. And, as here, misunderstandings can get sorted out. Torill has posted about my comment on her comment and that is fascinating too. see here:http://torillsin.blogspot.com/2005/10/whats-in-name.html
    Never before have I wanted so much to comment on Torill’s blog!! Oh well.

    Also, as you said earlier in the week (or was it last week) it is very strange that we both quoted the same bits from Farrell. And I am also putting that bit in my Miami paper!

    Comment by DrJoolz — October 29, 2005 @ 1:44 am

  8. Jill, Thanks for your comment :> I should clariify I was never upset with you, just Gerg’s comment. Greg emailed me an apology too so, as you said, it’s all water under the bridge. But when I was thinking about Mark Bernstein’s arguments that was the one incident that occurred for me which has me sympathetic to his views. And I have been an avid reader of your blog once I recovered from that little unpleasantness :>

    DrJoolz: I didn’t say it was strange, I said it was a moment of synchronicity that showed me that we were both on the same wavelength there - great minds, you know? :> I think that Farrell piece will be quoted by many more people than just us, since it crystallises some of the key points about what we do here on our blogs :>

    Comment by Anya — October 29, 2005 @ 11:14 am

  9. To Comment or Not to Comment

    Not having comments means I don’t get the point of blogging, at least according to The Carnival of English Language Teaching

    Trackback by Explorations in learning — June 12, 2006 @ 11:53 pm

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